This meeting was central to the conspiracy, it seems. WOLF: As someone who’s reported extensively on the meeting and built a podcast around it, I just wanted to get your read on these new developments.īERGEN: In a sense it’s not surprising, since it seems Jack Smith is trying to make some kind of conspiracy case around the attempts to overturn the election. Our conversation, conducted by phone, is below. I talked to Bergen about the new CNN report, the Oval Office meeting and Flynn’s journey from being a respected general who went down the rabbit hole to become a full-blown pusher of conspiracy theories. Over two episodes, he focuses in particular on the story of Flynn. Peter Bergen is CNN’s national security analyst, a vice president at New America and host of the Audible podcast, “ In the Room with Peter Bergen,” also on Apple and Spotify. It just so happens that there is a new podcast built around that Oval Office meeting. Byrne offered on Twitter to talk to special counsel Jack Smith. Representatives for Giuliani, Powell and Flynn either did not respond or declined to comment to CNN. … Prosecutors have specifically inquired about three outside Trump advisers who participated in the meeting: former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell, one-time national security adviser Michael Flynn and former Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne, sources said. Some witnesses were asked about the meeting months ago, while several others have faced questions about it more recently, including Rudy Giuliani. In that meeting, unofficial advisers presented Trump with unlikely ways to overturn the election. The special counsel overseeing all Department of Justice investigations related to former President Donald Trump has seemed to focus in particular on an infamous Oval Office meeting after Trump lost the 2020 election and before the January 6, 2021, insurrection at the US Capitol.

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